tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3540071429816533590.post7010986703503914904..comments2024-03-28T00:15:57.372-07:00Comments on Christian Apologetics UK: The Bhagavad-Gita and the Biblefailedatheisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16176322877697068624noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3540071429816533590.post-3912581884141690172014-09-08T01:42:12.921-07:002014-09-08T01:42:12.921-07:00Kedar Joshi says in his book on Bhagvad Gita says:...Kedar Joshi says in his book on Bhagvad Gita says: "51. Krishna—the preacher of yoga—is himself not a yogi. In the Bhagavad-gita, Krishna, who is not in the least a yogi himself,1 demands Arjuna, and in fact every other mortal, to be a yogi,2 while contradictorily enticing him with material prospects and benefits.3 Krishna is not said to be a yogi basically because he claims to create the (painful)4 manifested world (Vyakta Prakriti),5 when, as a yogi, he, as Paramatman (or Supreme Soul or Supersoul),6<br /> would quite simply be expected to be content within himself, and not to have any desire,7 including the desire for creation. Krishna is not the God of yoga but the "God of desire and hypocrisy"!7<br /> <br />2. Krishna alone is satanic (or evil)<br />7<br /> Interestingly, it can be inferred from the Gita, as well as from the rest of the Mahabharata, that Arjuna—the primary audience of the Gita—never really became a yogi. The way he fought the war, perhaps the way he lived afterwards, and the way his earthly life ended seem to show with sufficient clarity that disunion with non-atman and union with Paramatman —“yoga” in short, which appears to be the central message of the Gita—is not what he ultimately, or perhaps ever, strived for. 6According to the Gita, it is Krishna who does everything, it is he who is responsible for every good as well as evil that exists in the world,8 and yet he proclaims to make it— the prospects of yoga—worse for evil people,9 asserts to annihilate miscreants,10 while contradictorily11 claiming to be the friend of every being.12 Divinity—i.e. Krishna— alone could be said to possess free-will. Krishna alone creates delusion (or ignorance) and causes (unfathomable) suffering. Krishna—and Krishna alone—is evil.. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05826131855014141782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3540071429816533590.post-87947154427799371712013-09-15T03:09:00.928-07:002013-09-15T03:09:00.928-07:00yesuratnam ,who has not learned the Bhagawathgita ...yesuratnam ,who has not learned the Bhagawathgita from a hindu scholar.<br />He simply talking about the period and circumstances where the Gita was told.He had no idea about Lord Krishna, his motive for incarnation and the inner meaning of Original Gita.peoples like yesuratnam who left their own religion and converted into other for the mean of living ,better not to comment on the subject which they have no idea.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00143355394879840542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3540071429816533590.post-30056657985253327012013-04-11T09:31:02.775-07:002013-04-11T09:31:02.775-07:00The story you have quoted is symbolic of the inter...The story you have quoted is symbolic of the internal battle one must undergo to overcome his own sins.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14430993833081871381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3540071429816533590.post-79431041407829236412013-01-16T11:00:37.331-08:002013-01-16T11:00:37.331-08:00BHAGAVAD GITA
If we delve deep into the Mahabharat...BHAGAVAD GITA<br />If we delve deep into the Mahabharata, it is only a story of a war between two families. It remained a story for several centuries. During the Hindu kingdoms of Gupta, Vijayanagar and Mahratta the story aspect of the Mahabharata alone was etched in the minds of the people. There were no philosophical discourses in temples. Devotees worshiped the idols of gods and goddesses. All Hindu scriptures remained mnemonic and there were no manuscripts, for it was considered sacreligious to produce manuscripts or to print books of the sacred scriptures. A prayer like the Gayatri mantra could be recited only by Brahmins. If a non-Brahmin had accidentally heard the recital by a Brahmin, molten led would be poured into his ears. The Asiatic Society was founded in 1784 by William Jones. While still on board of the frigate Crococlile carrying him from England to India, he prepared a memorandum detailing his plan of study. This included “the laws of the Hindus and Mahomedans; the history of the ancient world; modern politics and geography of Hindusthan; Arithmatic and Geometry and mixed sciences of Asiaticks; Medicine, Chemistry, Surgery and Anatomy of the Indians etc.,” So even before landing in India, Jones was bent upon establishing the fact that ancient Indians were well versed in philosophy, mathematicas, science and medicine. But there were no manuscripts of Hindu scriptures and no original sources about Indian knowledge of science and medicine. The preferred method of Jones and other British scholars was to sit in the company of Sankrit-knowing Brahmins's and other Hindus, and to ask them to recite from memory Hindu scriptures. Scientists say that memory loss begins at the age of 40. How could the old Brahmins recite by heart century-old Scriptures? Recital by Brahmins contained many contemporary ideas to make the scriptures quite presentable. William Jones and other Orientalists syncretised Sanskrit with Classical and Biblical narratives, to establish transcultural correspondences by means of often crude conjectural etymologies. There were Brahmins such as Pundit Ramlochan, Balachandra Siromani, Rajendralala Misra, Bala Sastri of Benares, Radhakanta Sarman who were allowed to produce their own versions of Hindu scriptures. Brahmin scholars could get easy access to Christian scriptures and western literature from Fort William College and Sanskrit College in Calcutta established by the British. Another scholar, Francis Wilford, claimed that he had discovered the relationship among Hindu traditions, the Bible and the ancient British antiquities. Jones and other scholars, in collaboration with Brahmins, produced Sanskrit manuscripts with these fake claims. Krishna’s narration of creation in the Bhagavad Gita and the creation account in the Manu smriti produced by Jones are modified reproduction of the creation account in the Bible. Krishna’s instructions in the Gita are patterned on the book of Proverbs and Ecclesiastes in the Bible. As the modern translation of the Bhagavad Gita indicates, the work is in poetic form and in many places it is metrically exact parallel to Biblical literature. Sir Charles Wilkins translated the Bhagavad Gita into English in 1785, and he had used the Sanskrit manuscript produced by Asiatic Society scholars with so many interpolations and deletions. It was the English translation that gave worldwide publicity for the Bhagavad Gita. Deception and forgeries can be detected in the manuscripts produced by them. In 1788, Wilford, claimed to have found innumerable references to ancient Egypt, its Kings and holy places in Puranas by publishing a long text of baroque complexity in Asiatic Researches. However, Wilford was forced to admit with a humiliating note in the same journal that he had been systematically duped by his head Brahmin Pandit between 1793 and 1805. Probably the modernized version of the Bhagavad Gita was interpolated during this period.<br />Abraham Yeshuratnamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02901255965320983587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3540071429816533590.post-74479310253204930002012-10-10T04:13:34.530-07:002012-10-10T04:13:34.530-07:00As I may have said on Facebook I think the title o...As I may have said on Facebook I think the title of this piece is misleading. The Gita is a wonderful book which should be read by all Christians and most who have done would agree that we have much common ground with the message expressed therein. The Hare Krishna's interpretation of the book, however, is rather fringe and extreme and consequentially if we were to generalise from them to all Hindus it would be like generalising from Jehova's Wittnesses to all followers of Jesus.Peter Hardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18025610982574028064noreply@blogger.com